A while ago Chris Ralph wrote a letter that was published here and on Ex Mormon Bishop now atheist Steve Bloor’s Blog to the Europe Area Presidency. This has been met with no response.
Please see below a further letter from Chris addressing his concerns to the First Presidency and Quorum of the twelve.
This is something that to many members may seem futile, however to the many people that are leaving the LDS Church due to the issue’s Chris is raising it seems like high time that the leadership of the Church addressed these things themselves, rather than quietly standing back letting those that seek to defend the Church with no authority to speak for it do all the talking, which is the situation we are currently in.
Please enjoy and leave any thoughts below.
Dear First Presidency & Quorum of Twelve,
I am sorry I am writing this letter.
That is not an apology; it is a plain statement of fact. I sincerely am very sorry. It is regrettable that such a letter as this needs to be written at all.
However, when bishops and stake presidents find themselves unable to answer members’ basic concerns, and the Europe Area Presidency pointedly refuses to respond to crucial questions about the church’s foundational claims, it becomes obvious that something is very worryingly amiss. In such circumstances, what other option is there for troubled truth-seekers, than to refer the same unanswered questions to the fifteen men who are periodically sustained as prophets, seers and revelators, and who are sometimes reverentially termed “the living oracles”?
These matters are profoundly important, potentially influencing the daily lives of millions. Accordingly, answers are required from the governing body of the church. Whatever apologists, (self-appointed or otherwise), may have to say on the subject is irrelevant, unless of course, you, as that governing body, decide to endorse their ideas officially. In other words, a response needs to come directly from the horse’s mouth, and not from the mouth of just any aspiring stable-boy currently left to sweep up; stable-boys are hired and fired, and so their words carry no weight or authority.
You will, I assume, have some familiarity with my two Open Letters which were published earlier this year. If not, then they may be found here:
and here:
http://mormonisminvestigated.co.uk/2012/10/04/second-open-letter-to-area-presidency/
or alternatively here:
and here:
http://stevebloor.wordpress.com/2012/10/04/a-second-open-letter-to-the-europe-area-presidency/
For the sake of brevity, I will not at this point repeat the full content of those letters, but ask for your considered responses when you have read them. Please answer honestly and openly, and please do so without further undue delay.
We have clearly arrived at an important crossroads in the evolution of the church, and history will almost certainly not judge you kindly if the content of those letters continues to be ignored. They represent the questions of many thousands already conversant with the uncensored historical information which is increasingly available to inquiring minds.
In the UK it is becoming apparent that we are nearing tipping point. The proclamation just published by twelve British members is the clearest evidence that disengagement is well underway. They represent thousands in this land who might now be properly described as “closet doubters”.
And who is to blame for that doubt? Are the members themselves culpable, or the local leaders perhaps? Hardly so. Those now leaving in significant numbers had, in many cases, been stalwart defenders of the faith for many years; they are not luke-warm converts of a few weeks’ duration, who have turned away for lack of understanding of gospel principles or church government. The current local leaders in many cases find themselves placed in the unenviable position of trying to advise men and women who are more knowledgeable than they themselves are about the issues. It is not the bishops’ and stake presidents’ faults that they soon find themselves in retreat, incapable of answering and unable to help. Blame for this situation rests squarely with the institutional church itself.
In an age of rapid information exchange, the practice of serving up sanitized history and empty spiritual placebos to the overworked and under-valued members, is without doubt poisoning the whole body of the church. The physician can hardly blame the patient for this perilous mis-judgment.
The tide is rising rapidly, and millions more who have yet to awaken to the uncomfortable facts, (usually because they have been actively discouraged from looking for them by church leaders and teachers), will before long also find out. And then the fairytale must give way to an era of post-fairytale reality. That means pain, and fear, and a sense of the deepest emptiness for many who are undeserving of such traumas, but it is a process which cannot be halted, because surely the God of Truth has willed it this way.
I am reporting this to you, but presumably you are already more than cognisant of these enormous challenges, and so you will also understand that this situation leaves you with a plain choice: either to continue to lead the people in a state of perpetual denial and ignorance, or to teach them to live by a new-found faith and trust in objectivity, which will permit truth to lead us where it will. It ought not to be too difficult for men of real integrity, men of God, to make an enlightened choice. Have we not sung together many times: “Do what is right, let the consequence follow”? The time is upon us when trust in that admonition needs to be expressed both in word and deed.
It is essential above all else to acknowledge that a brazen denial of the past has never been true faith, but just an avoidance of reality; and stubbornness has never been genuine strength, but just arrogance in disguise. This nettle before you must be grasped; this bullet must be bitten. It is for you to act now if you do not wish to stand condemned, not by history alone, but by all honest men and women throughout the world who value truth.
Take for example the case of the Book of Abraham. Scholars have been in no doubt about its true provenance for well over 40 years. However, the church hierarchy has in effect concealed the known facts from the tithe-paying membership. Why? Why are such vital historical discoveries not taught to the members as a matter of honour and integrity? Why is the myth of the Abrahamic papyrus still perpetuated even though it is proven to be false? After all, we read in church-approved manuals: “When we speak untruths, we are guilty of lying. We can also intentionally deceive others by a gesture or a look, by silence, or by telling only part of the truth. Whenever we lead people in any way to believe something that is not true, we are not being honest.” (p. 181 Priesthood & Relief Society manual, see http://lds.org/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-31-honesty?lang=eng).
Why then the deafening silence over something so radically important to the issue of belief in the prophetic office of Joseph Smith? Brethren, as the manual properly affirms, this kind of concealment is dishonesty; it cannot be called anything else. That fact alone is deeply distressing, but there is worse, for when such dishonesty is coupled with soliciting donations from a membership which lives in fear of spiritual condemnation if it fails to comply, it might perhaps be argued that institutional dishonesty has crossed a line and has become deception with intent to defraud. Or at any rate that is what we would probably call it in the UK. That reflects shamefully on all of us, and so I urge you to address this issue, or risk your names being forever tainted.
In the UK, most members pay their donations with added tax relief, and that resulting relief is additionally solicited by the church. This means that if deception with intent to defraud were ever to be proved, the long list of victims would not be limited just to the donors, but might also include the UK government, and therefore, in some way, each citizen of the UK. Assuming that UK offerings annually amount to a conservative £50m, it seems likely that the UK government is surrendering £10m per annum to the church as a corollary of the process. How much, therefore, has the average UK citizen unwittingly “donated” to the church over the last 40 years? This must be viewed as a potentially significant issue.
For most of us though, the deepest concern goes well beyond the earnings we have handed over under questionable circumstances. It is the devaluing of our standing in the eyes of our families and friends, which is most injurious to us, and it seems to occur whenever we place honesty above ecclesiastical loyalties.
I have a son I love and cherish as much as anything God has given me. I know he loves me too, but following my sincere attempt to be open with him about real church history, he concluded I had “lost the spirit”, and that I was no longer the person I had once been, the one he had always looked up to for advice and moral support. That wounded me deeply.
Why would he take such a view? Am I less honest, less charitable, less moral today than I was when I taught him at an early age to “follow the brethren”, and encouraged him to prepare to serve a mission for the church? Not at all. I am sure I am as much the person I ought to be now, as I ever have been. I have not really changed, even though my understanding of reality has. His respect for me has waned because you, (and those who formerly occupied your seats at General Conference), have consistently failed us. It is not his fault that he is afraid to look at the historical evidences which have opened my eyes. Nor is it his fault that he lives in fear of losing his own precious little eternal family if he should discover that my concerns are actually well founded. You have taught him throughout his life to fear the consequences of discovering the truth, and now he and we suffer daily for it.
It grieves me to know that he undoubtedly lives in a state of constant sorrow over what he sees as the disaffection of his parents and his siblings from the only divinely approved vehicle of salvation there is in this world. His life is needlessly streaked with unhappiness because of the fear of uncorrelated spiritual discovery you have sown in him since he first attended Primary. The demonstrably false tenet that God will not permit you, the Brethren, to lead the church astray has insidiously interpolated itself between us and his full trust, and so we are all condemned to suffer, as he doggedly tries to live an existence of false hope, vainly longing for things to be as they once were, but not knowing, (and, through fear, not wanting to know), the scale of the problems you have kept from him.
Having striven always to be honest with my fellow men, and having constantly held up that kind of example to our children, I find that a hidden wedge, (sometimes referred to by others as the “invisible elephant in the room”), has now resulted, and I am sure it is because he cannot prevent himself from measuring my worth by my unwillingness to pay you lip-service allegiance. As I no longer feel able to be supportive of your chosen ethos, he perceives that the fault is in me, for he has been thoroughly persuaded that you would not lead him astray. This is ironic on multiple levels, isn’t it?
We are more fortunate than many however, who, finding themselves in similar circumstances, are no longer even able to bring themselves to speak civilly to one another, for so great is the animosity arising from this issue of leadership infallibility. Tragically, Voltaire has been proven correct many times over in his observation that “Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices”.
Many LDS families have suffered and continue to suffer such injustices because of this infallibility belief first promulgated by Wilford Woodruff. It is time therefore to de-commission that pernicious and destructive teaching, which is currently instrumental in destroying so many kin relationships and friendships throughout the world.
There is a great need instead to re-enthrone the liberating principle of honest inquiry that all may freely discover the facts for themselves. This has been advocated by various leaders in the past, such as James E. Talmage, who stated:
“The man who cannot listen to an argument which opposes his views either has a weak position or is a weak defender of it. No opinion that cannot stand discussion or criticism is worth holding… In general it is true that nothing which cannot stand up under discussion or criticism is worth defending”
and J. Reuben Clark, who said:
“If we have the truth, it cannot be harmed by investigation. If we have not the truth, it ought to be harmed”
and Hugh B. Brown, who observed:
“Only error fears freedom of expression.”
This current “control neurosis” should cease. It is time to do as Jesus would do, and teach a gospel of inclusiveness once more, which emphasizes that nobody should ever be considered a lesser person for pursuing ultimate truth, even if their quest leads them in due course to the conclusion that such truth is not found within Mormonism.
As you consider the humble origins of this church, and of Joseph Smith junior its founder, on this his 207th birthday, please don’t allow yourselves to be deceived into thinking that the finery and sophistry purchased with accumulated wealth in recent times, will ever be sufficient to cover up the sins of the past. The eventual cost of misleading the people at this crossroads would prove far greater than any price you would pay for championing transparency and inclusiveness. And if your courage begins to fail you as you stand upon this momentous brink, then please exercise full faith, and do not attempt to count the cost as you cast off the worn and torn rags of misrepresentation which, to be truthful, have adorned Joseph Smith’s church throughout its history.
Provided your intentions are worthy ones, we, the many disillusioned members, are ready to help in every possible way if you will only begin to speak to us, and also listen to what we have to say, just as Elder Holland promised he would do on BBC television earlier this year.
However, your desire for realignment must be full and sincere. Half-truths will no longer do, for they are also half-falsehoods, and will be found out. The searing light of truth must be shone upon every concern. Full disclosure is the only hope there is that the patient may be healed of his otherwise terminal
condition.
The time has come; this moment of opportunity may never return.
In hope,
Chris Ralph
This is the best written letter I’ve read in quite a while. Really great points, amazing and appropriate quotes.
The LDS leadership does have a lot to explain.
I hear what you are saying. The one thing we may not agree on with regard to Church histroy is that our understanding will color our personal bias. We all have them and to admit ortherwise is less than honorable. The white washed and put in a new suit history does need some change. In our day of instant information the James E. Talmage quote is most revealing. However the Book of Abraham information you gave is just not true. We all know that the BofA was not translated from the few scrapes we have now. It is very similiar to the coffin texts, pyrimid texts and the book of the dead. We call these tests the book of breathing. Now what about the facsimiles? They are NOT part of the book of Abraham. They are representations of principles as seen through Egyptian funeral text. It is clear that the direct translation is not what the accomping explanations depicts in our scriptures. We also know that many layers of cultural influence superimposded upon these second century documents are not literal. I will admit that there is a common belief that we do have the papyrus that the BofA is translated from and that needs to change. I do not think that the Church is hiding anything but it is also not teaching some things that are true because It is not seen as useful. I understand that you do see some of these things as needful. When I came across many of these issues that you are concerned about I too was surprised to learn that there was a clean version and the not clean version especially of some members. People are people and people make mistakes. We want those in authority to be better than we are. Prophets are near to God status in some of our thinking. We need to rid ourselves of such views. Once we can do this history takes on a new colors instead of just black and white.
-Ned Scarisbrick
Ned Scarisbrick, thank you for your contribution, it does make a change to hear views which on the whole do not agree with the general trend of comments attacking the Church.
I would make a couple of oservations though, James E Talmage’s statement is true, but as in all things it should not be one-sided. I have tried to reply to Steve Bloor’s blog on this topic but I suspect he only allows comments that agree with his agenda, so I would ask him to apply the quote to himself.
As far as the BOA question is concerned Hugh Nibley wrote a whole book explaining that contrary to the myrh that is being peddled Joseph Smith never said that the Book of Abraham came from those fragments which were donated by the New York Metropolitan museum, it was Grant S Howard and Jerald Tanner excommunicated members whose said he did. The Book of Abraham was translated from one of the two scrolls which came from the Lobolo mummies sold to the Church by Michael Chandler, it is my understanding that the Church has never claimed to have the two scrolls, they were claimed by Emma Smith following Joseph’s martyrdom, it is thought that she sold them to museums, speculations think that they were destroyed in the Chicago Museum fire. I believe that they have been preserved by the Lord as they would come under the scriptures which have to be come forth in the “restitution of all things” as they were written by holy Prophets.
All of the questions concerning the so-called hidden early history have been answered by the Church in General Conference address and in Ensign articles, but one would need the Guidance of the Holy Ghost to accept these answers, and I fear that those who are demanding these answers could very wellhave cut themslves off from this guidance.
Just a last comment could I suggest that Chris Ralph, Steve Bloor Tom Phillips address these questions to the axe-grinding ex-BYU professors and other apostates who propounded the questions in the first place, Have a nice Christmas Ned and Bobby.
Jeff Walsh
Ned…. any defence of the BoA on scholarly grounds today is beyond laughable and hardly worth debating. Hence why the like of Dan Peterson and Jeff Holland try now to defend in on the basis that it was an inspiration and not a translation!!!
Ned, it is good to know that there is someone on this site that has not been caught in the tangled web by those who flatter to deceive. Jeff Walsh
I don’t think it is about deception but perception. I know you think you understand what I said or whoever said what about anything but I’m not sure that what you heard is what I or them meant . :-)
Just a thought,
-Ned
NBM (never been Mormon, but know a lot about it from personal acquaintances and studies) in peace here …
Chris makes a very profound point about truth and truthfulness. Try to divide them, and you’ll enter a world of hurt. The thing is, you can’t pick and choose what you should be truthful about. But, that is what the LDS movement demands that its members do by denying them the capacity to truthfully examine and communicate the LDS movement’s exclusive and absolute claims in the light of its remarkably well-documented history.
Atheism is not the only alternative to the Mormon church. The last thing I would hope for is that any Mormon lose his or her faith in Christ. However, this compulsion within the movement to invest all faith in the church organization and its temples is misdirecting that faith into something that is incapable of reciprocating it in full. Further, as Chris points out, it poisons the lives of the members by forcing them to adopt a double standard on truth and truthfulness.
God is light, and in him there is no darkness at all. (1 John 1:5)
Have a happy Christmas – the time of year when we celebrate how the light of God entered our dark world, and illuminated it so that we could see it as it truly is.
I am trying to think about moment or the straw that broke the delusional donkeys back ? was it the fact that JS had relations with young girls and with married women and then lied about it? or maybe its the many dishonest changes i have found in current church history that try to remove the hypocrisy folk magic and contradictions? Or maybe it is the failed revelations that are rarely if ever mentioned? or the failed attempts at translation like the Greek Psalter, the Kinder-hook plates ? or maybe its that final so called translation the Book of Abraham which many would try to defend and say we dont have the correct papyri to make a comparison or draw a conclusion? But i find when you weigh the totally inaccurate translating of the facsimiles along with the totally inaccurate translation of characters and Egyptian grammar recorded in the notebooks which smith used an wrote on during the translation process i am left with no other conclusion but that J Smith must have been relying on pure imagination and delusion.
Ned,
There are a number of websites and books written that cover the conflict surrounding the Book of Abraham. This website I find is particularly useful: http://www.bookofabraham.com/boamathie/BOA_TOC.html
The information that I have discovered leads me to no other conclusion than that Joseph Smith made it all up.
In addition I suggest you read the experience of Rev Henry Caswell when he met Joseph Smith and presented him with his copy of a Greek Psalter: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=VTIBAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Henry+Caswall&hl=en&sa=X&ei=06-7UIeFJoW5hAfkz4HQAw&sqi=2&redir_esc=y
I hope this two sites will help you to see a little of the true character of Joseph Smith. If these were the only examples I would say that perhaps Joseph was carried away with his position, but unfortunately there are many other examples of immoral and base behaviour, including open dishonesty; these cannot and should not be ignored.
In short, Joseph told lies, the early leaders told lies and that lie is being perpetuated today. It is insupportable for me to continue with a church that sings hymns of praise to a man such as this, and yet calls itself the Church of Jesus Christ. It is a contradiction of all that christianity stands for.
I wish you all the best. Truth can hurt but I know there are many here that will be happy to support you on your journey of discovery. All the very best to you.
Petunia
I checked out the links you gave me and the arguments all have been made before. The conclusions made are from fragmentary information. I will not try and refute each and every point. The style is very similar to that of the Tanners. They take small bits of information that may seem negative, give it the most negative spin possible and that’s all they talk about. Using this type of truth is typical of political arguments. You could even paint H2O or water to look deadly…
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So basically Ned all your saying is you don’t find the issues raised convincing. OK no problem.
The issue is that many, many people do and are leaving in great numbers because of these issues. This letter is not in expectation that it will cause the General Authorities to lose their testimony, but rather in some expectation that they will actually address these issues rather than hide behind the (very much unofficial) apologists.
Hi Bobby, my laptop crashed and so I have lost your home address, please email me it and I will send you articles which contradict the assertion that the “early history” is covered up. I would also question that “many many” people are leaving the Church. Jeff
Thanks Jeff I will email you in just a sec, regarding people leaving the church Marlin Jenson who was then a part of the 70 and the head LDS historian gave an interview that said otherwise. Thats what my view on that is largely based on. I know that you firsthand have seen a number of cases too. But anyway emailing.
Why can’t you guys do your own research and believe again? I’m not judging you for doubting, but for lethargy in getting to the truth. Your testimony of the church is out there if you know where to find it.