Comments on: Review of “The Significance of the Sacrament” Chapter of 2014 Manual, by Gary Carter.

By: Bobby

Bobby — Mon, 11 Aug 2014 21:30:46 +0000

But I SERIOUSLY doubt it, in a 68% Mormon state the 32% left over account for that statistic, they would have to view porn full time…

But anyway, I hope you were seeing Michael that I am not raising that as a reason for Mormonism to be false, nor do I intend to do so.

By: Bobby

Bobby — Mon, 11 Aug 2014 21:27:07 +0000

Nice :)

By: Michael

Michael — Mon, 11 Aug 2014 19:56:27 +0000

Only Non-Mormons subscribe :-)

By: Bobby

Bobby — Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:16:12 +0000

A contradiction to what, have I claimed somewhere that born agains never divorce?

I think you just committed the guilt by association fallacy (look it up). Likewise is Mormonism false because Utah has the highest number of pornography subscribers in the US? Come on you can do better than that.

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By: Bobby

Bobby — Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:14:07 +0000

Right on both counts, so are you saying taking the sacrament does cleanse you before God?

By: robinobishop

robinobishop — Mon, 11 Aug 2014 13:49:25 +0000

Then, for instance, why do people who describe themselves as born again in Christ divorce at a much greater rate than atheists? That is a profound contradiction.

By: robinobishop

robinobishop — Mon, 11 Aug 2014 13:40:06 +0000

Bobby remarks: “I utterly reject the idea that one is made clean by taking the sacrament, or any other church ordinance.” That being the case, and logically consistent, you utterly reject that you can be made clean through baptism. It turns out there is much you reject.

By: Bobby

Bobby — Mon, 28 Jul 2014 21:14:45 +0000

Just a quick clarification. You do realise my issue with all of this is the notion of becoming clean when taking the sacrament dont you? This is not something to do with the sacramental prayer. as such.

Or are you just saying that you feel he has misinterpreted this and that is the root of the problem?

thanks

By: Michael

Michael — Mon, 28 Jul 2014 17:22:45 +0000

I found his email address and have asked him to further explain his thoughts on the subject in relation to the wording used in the actual Sacramental prayers. I will let you know when he responds.

By: Bobby

Bobby — Mon, 28 Jul 2014 16:56:23 +0000

Thanks michael I would love to hear how that goes.

He reflects my understanding that I have also heard from other Mormons over the years.

Any other LDS people here have thoughts on this?