Comments on: General Conference October 2012, Priesthood Session Review by Bobby Gilpin

By: Bobby

Bobby — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:43:00 +0000

I cant deny it haha

By: Charles Dayton

Charles Dayton — Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:42:08 +0000

Bobby – you devote your time to Mormonism because we are so much fun:)

By: miketea

miketea — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:12:33 +0000

I ought to say something about denominations. Salvation is the product of God’s activity while denominations are the product of man’s. As Bobby has clearly pointed out, salvation is dependent on someone trusting in the finished work of Christ on the Cross of Calvary. If my neighbour decides to deny the efficacy of that work then it is incumbent upon me to witness to him, correct his wayward thinking and invite him to believe in Christ. If my Christian neighbour chooses to express his trust in the finished work of Christ on the Cross in ways that are different from my own because of historical events and developments then it is incumbent on me to celebrate his saved state and make the main thing the main thing.

When I came out of a cult I attempted to cross all my “T’s” and dot all my “I’s” only to learn that difference is not a bad thing, that there are some things we hold firmly, some we hold lightly and some we hold away. I would have to be pretty cock-sure of myself to feel I am equipped to correct everyone on everything. I mean, if I’m that certain, who on earth is going to correct me?

By: miketea

miketea — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:40:50 +0000

n our Cafe Church event last night, Chris, I had the privilege of interviewing a church member about his faith journey. He is a nurse who works primarily in paediatrics. Your question makes about as much sense as my asking him, “Why paediatrics? Why aren’t you out there nursing cancer sufferers, rheumatoid arthritis sufferers, people with brain tumours?” It is what he has specialised in and he trusts that other branches of nursing care are covered by other people. In much the same way Bobby (and others like him) specialise in this area, trusting that others who are perhaps better prepared, are taking care of other areas. Indeed, he demonstrated as much in his answer using the illustration of his other blog.

By: Bobby

Bobby — Sat, 20 Oct 2012 06:31:50 +0000

Hi Chris those are entirely fair questions, as a quick side note I do have a blog like this on Jehovah’s Witnesses (www.watchtowerinvestigated.co.uk) however I leave that to a couple of other people these days, my thing is very much Mormonism.

For the sake of saving me typing out the story as to why can I refer you to a recent radio discussion I had with a Mormon here:

http://mormonisminvestigated.co.uk/2012/07/28/bobby-dialogue-with-a-mormon-part-1/

You dont have to listen to it all though you may find it interesting, but in the first few minutes I explain why I am doing what I am doing, please obviously feel free to ask any more questions on that.

Regarding the 41.000 denominations I would say no I am not too worried about them at all as they all believe that Jesus is God and that salvation comes by grace alone which are the two fundamentals you need to believe to be saved by Christ. I may disagree with them on other issues such as Calvinism, women in leadership, infant baptism and others but they do not affect someone’s salvation, and while I may enjoy having those discussions with Christians at times its not something I would give anywhere near the same time and effort too as the stakes are not as high.

The difference between your (LDS I assume) and my mindset on that issue is that to me a different Church movement does not by any means neccesarily mean that it is a different faith. My faith is in Christ and His work on the Cross and His work in my life, this does not depend on which church I am in but rather who am I trusting in. The Methodists baptists etc are the same faith as mine.

By: Chris H.

Chris H. — Sat, 20 Oct 2012 04:55:48 +0000

I just realized I forgot to mention all the atheists and evolutionists who deny the existence of Christ because of all the scientific facts that they’ve discovered that discredit many of the Bibles teachings. Why don’t you correct them and save their souls?…Don’t you need to show them Jesus?…yet here you are consumed with only saving the Mormons…very strange indeed.

By: Chris H.

Chris H. — Sat, 20 Oct 2012 04:51:55 +0000

“This is how I see members of the Mormon Church and why I will be seeking to show them Jesus for the rest of my life.”

Just curious. how many web pages do you have devoted to Judaism?…since they deny Jesus as the Christ and participated in His crucifixion. What about Muslims?…they believe Christ is a prophet, but deny his divinity. There are a lot more Jews and Muslims in the world than there are Mormons. Interesting that you spend so much time focussed on Mormons

There are 41,000+ Christian denominations in the world today that all believe in the Bible and interpret it their own way. If you all interpreted it the same…you would all have one faith, not 41,000+. What makes you think your faith out of the other 41,000+ denominations of Christianity is the correct one? Remember, whatever your response is…all the others are probably saying something similar. You can’t all be right. Christ said there is one Lord, one faith, one baptism…not one Lord, 41,000 faiths, and 41,000 baptisms. Again, why aren’t you trying to save all the other Christian denominations who interpret the Bible differently than you (I’m assuming of course that you aren’t)?

By: Bobby

Bobby — Fri, 19 Oct 2012 10:15:06 +0000

Thanks Mike appreciated, I think reviewing the conference sessions is a good way to respond to Mormonism how it is, and not just how it was, as we can easily just quote problematic Brigham Young stuff all the time. There is more than enough being said today that is still worth commenting on, I think we will definitely keep this going.

By: miketea

miketea — Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:53:01 +0000

Excellent exposition Bobby. Your use of the Bible is solid and clear and your examples are compelling. I love your last observation about who is righteous and how. It gets right to the heart of the matter (a good name for a TV show)