Comments on: Second Open Letter to Area Presidency by Chris Ralph

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By: Petunia

Petunia — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:36:57 +0000

CJ: it appears you have decided to put your little point in as many places as you can find! I notice that you have included the same message on Stephen Bloor’s blog, the petition facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Mormon-Petition/509073059126466) and also Chris’s first letter to the area presidency on this site, so I will simply repeat here what I wrote in answer to you at the end of Chris’s first letter.
CJ, I’m sure your intentions are good but if you think that Pres Uchtdorf’s talk is an answer to the many questions that exist regarding the anomalies, lies and inconsistencies in many aspects of church history, you are greatly mistaken; it addressed nothing. Vague talk regarding blind men and elephants, suggesting good, honest people (many are christians still) are being deceived by satan is hardly a frank admission that untruths began with Joseph Smith and have been perpetuated by every generation of LDS leadership since that time. If anything, I felt this talk was beneath Pres Uchtdorf and greatly disappointing.

By: Bob Cullen

Bob Cullen — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 23:02:50 +0000

@Chris H. I cannot see that your question adds anything helpful to the discussion. The issue here is that President Uchtdorf’s remarks did not, as was claimed by someone who calls himself CJ, provide a response to the specific questions posed by many members of the church. Chris Ralph, myself and clearly others also do not understand how CJ felt that those questions and issues had been answered. An appeal has been made by Double Edged Sword for CJ to enlighten us. He has yet to do so but it would be nice if he was able to say something useful and helpful in response to that request. Chris Ralph’s comment is interesting and very relevant. I had almost forgotten that comment by Brigham Young which clearly and unequivocally supports the idea that members are not, as many latter days saints seem to believe, expected to take everything at face value or accept something just because a leader says so. Brigham Young speaks very specifically against that approach. If CJ, Chris H. or others wish to argue against it they will need to wait until they share the same sphere of existence as Brigham Young and take it up with him if they feel they have the authority to do so – there seems little point in taking the issue up with us or anyone else in the meantime.